Comments on: Pastoral Letter from Victoria’s Catholic Bishops http://www.brucellama.com/2012/03/31/pastoral-letter-from-victorias-catholic-bishops/ That's one crazy Llama Sat, 04 Oct 2014 22:50:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.5.4 By: Erebus Nekromantia http://www.brucellama.com/2012/03/31/pastoral-letter-from-victorias-catholic-bishops/comment-page-1/#comment-2283 Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:05:33 +0000 http://www.brucellama.com/?p=2665#comment-2283 If I may respond to Doug Pollard, and mention that I have no affiliation with any organised religion or ideological society – I just get sick thrills from being a contrarian (I know, I need help), I would suggest your proposed argument “marriage was invented before people worked out that having sex led to making babies” isn’t convincing.

Yes, it is true that the ancients had limited knowledge on the mechanics of conception; but why the emphasis on virgin births in myth and legend if not for the knowledge that to fall pregnant one must have sex?
Virgin births have been rampant throughout the myths and legends of humanity as miraculous phenomena – the oldest I can think of is the virgin birth of Horus, member of the ancient Egyptian pantheon. Then there is Greek/Roman, Persian, Hindu, Buddhist, Hebrew, and even Aztec mythology. Cultures extending from the Mediterranean, to the Far East, to the South Americas – all isolated from one another for thousands of years – telling stories of immaculate conceptions.
Then there is six thousand year-old Sumerian creationist poetry depicting the necessity of the creator’s “seed” to bring forth life from the virgin earth (the earth personified as feminine). So there must have been some acknowledgement that ejaculation had something to do with it.
Such accounts were made so profound within these cultures because of how unbelievable it was for a virgin to be with child. The consequences of sex had to have been apparent to them to acknowledge that virgins don’t give birth (without extraordinary intervention); otherwise, the Virgin Mary story would have been met with a casual “so what?”.

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By: Catholics – tell your bigoted bishops to ‘Shut the Fuck Up’ « Gladly, the Cross-Eyed Bear http://www.brucellama.com/2012/03/31/pastoral-letter-from-victorias-catholic-bishops/comment-page-1/#comment-2281 Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:14:00 +0000 http://www.brucellama.com/?p=2665#comment-2281 […] Bruce Llama: Pastoral Letter from Australian Catholic Bishops […]

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By: Doug Pollard http://www.brucellama.com/2012/03/31/pastoral-letter-from-victorias-catholic-bishops/comment-page-1/#comment-2280 Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:30:21 +0000 http://www.brucellama.com/?p=2665#comment-2280 Hard as it may be to beleive, marriage was invented before people worked out that having sex led to making babies: even the Greeks and Romans didn’t have that one nailed. So the whole ‘marriage was invented so kids would have a mum and dad’ line is just plain wrong.

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By: Michael Barnett http://www.brucellama.com/2012/03/31/pastoral-letter-from-victorias-catholic-bishops/comment-page-1/#comment-2279 Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:40:27 +0000 http://www.brucellama.com/?p=2665#comment-2279 DD = Dickhead Douche-bag ???

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