How to use tragedy to push your religion – Ray Comfort gets it wrong!

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Recently a man in New Zealand died after he was horrifically attacked and eaten by a shark. The atheist, however, can’t blame God for creating the shark, because (in his mind) God doesn’t exist. He has to say that this tragedy was the cold result of the evolutionary process. It was a matter of survival of the fittest. The shark simply ate a primate who was in his territory. The Christian, however, has a different worldview. This terrible death of a human being confirms that we live in a “fallen” creation, under the curse of Genesis–where sharks devour people. So do lions and tigers. Snakes kill, bees sting, mosquitoes suck blood and spread disease, crocodiles bite your arm off, and bears rip open your rib cage. There are a whole lot of other nasty predators that will eat you for dinner, if you get into their territory or if they are hungry enough to come into yours. While evolution rests on faith because the believer has to believe what he’s been told about old bones, about theories and dating data, we can “observe” Genesis chapter 1 in the existing creation and in the fossil record. Not only is the curse observable, but we see male and female in every kind and all of them reproduce after their own kind, just as the Scriptures say. It’s all readily observable in Nature. None of it needs faith.

And so says the ratbag New Zealand jewish christian pastor Ray Comfort.  A man who has dedicated his life to being confused.

He thinks bananas are an atheist nightmare because they slip into your hand so well.

RaybananaTo his quote above from his Facebook profile.  Comfort suggests that the death of the New Zealander was the cold result of the evolutionary process.  The death of Adam Strange is indeed tragic, it caused a great deal of trauma for those who stood by and watched him attacked and killed.  It wasn’t about the survival of the fittest, it was about nature doing what it does.  Comfort hints at an atheist being cold and unmoved by this death, whereas a christian is somehow better placed to see the death as part of gods plan. He goes on to suggest that we are under the curse of Genesis, a curse derived from his rather cold god.

He says that it’s because Eve ate the fruit of the tree in the middle of a garden, where his god planted the fucking thing, that the shark ate a man.  In Ray’s mind 6,000 years ago this happened.  After all the generations we are still cursed because his god couldn’t get it right.

In some mind-twist that surely must hurt, he then says that evolution requires faith, whereas the believing in god has evidence.  The bible is evidence.  And why?  Because we can observe the result of animals having sex.  The offspring is observable, the bible says:

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

See!  The bible says so.  Of course, it has nothing to do with the authors actually observing the universe from their goat-herding fucking ways and noticing that when you have sex with your own species you then have babies, when you have sex with the goats you don’t.  It was going on all around them so they wrote it down.

I much prefer DifficultNerds theory on banana peeling.  That’s very observable.

 

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Spinksy Snorts at the Universe

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Somebody must’ve told me old mate Spinksy what a dip-shit he is to think the world was created because god farted.

Upon posting an article about a literal interpretation of Genesis I received several comments from friends and acquaintances that can be summed up like so:

“The creation story is not the important part of the Bible. What is important is the Gospel. Indeed the very arguing of a literal six days for creation can distract from the Gospel.”

I can’t help but feel deeply disturbed by these opinions. Firstly, I am concerned about the criticism I have received for even broaching on the topic of creation. Indeed in my previous article I did not treat a literal creation as a primary doctrinal issue, nor did I even say that we should be divided on the issue. What I said was that it was completely plausible for Christians to hold to a literal 6-day creation.

Oooo. He’s deeply disturbed because someone thinks creationism is silly.  The bit I find deeply disturbing is that he thinks a literal 6-day creation is plausible.  6 days to do all this?  You must be out of your mind!

milkywayLet’s just take a minute.  Think of how small a grain of sand is.  Now cut it in half, then cut it in half again and then once more.  Can you imagine that?  It’s pretty small.  You may even have trouble finding it. The world is really big when you’re a tiny bit of sand.  Look up at the sky, how far can you see?  Forever is the answer.  Everything up there that you can see beyond the atmosphere is bigger than you.  Even the distance between your eyes and where the blue stuff stops is bigger than you.  Like the grain of sand you’re small.  Keeping going out, beyond our solar system, all the way to the Milky Way and then keep going.  There are suns and planets out there that are huge.  So big that we don’t even know how to comprehend their size.  My mind can’t even get around the notion that these big stars are only small when compared to the total size of the universe.  Here we are, on a tiny speck of sand in the grand cosmos pretending that it’s only 6,000 years old.  There are people so small on this planet that they actually believe they are the most important thing in the universe.  They think that their god magiced the whole thing up in under a week.  It’s simply crazy to believe such dribble.

There is a vast difference between what is termed “old-earth creationism” and “theistic evolution”.

Well no, there’s not really any difference, both are fanciful stories that seek to force the universe into the words written by people over 3 thousand years ago.  They’re the same people who thought you could fit all the earth’s animals on a big boat for forty days.

While I have concern about the former I believe the latter cannot hold under the weight of the creation story intertwining with the Gospel. Consider this, God makes Adam and Eve approximately 6,000 years ago (this can be verified via genealogies).

I’m gonna stop you there Spinksy, how is it verified?  What independent sources did you use to verify the genealogies in the bible?  Well, you didn’t use any – because there are none.  Someone counted the generations in the bible going backwards and worked out the date.1

If macro evolution had occurred previous to this creation we have a God who prescribes the term “good” on a process that improves a species only by generations and generations dying. Furthermore, the very essence of the Gospel, that is the depravity of man, is undermined by the lack of a historical Adam (the most compelling understanding of history from an evolutionary perspective).

So because you don’t want god waiting 10 million years before saying “Good” all the science is wrong?  That makes sense.

Also, Jesus is constantly referenced as the last Adam. If macro evolution were to be true this would have catastrophic implications upon the Gospel. This is not a meaningless quibble, it affects (and distorts) the very nature of man.

Evolution is true and that alone should be enough for you to throw religious fairy tales away.  Claiming the earth is no more than 6,000 years old shows how far your head is stuck in the bucket.  If you hold still I can kick it till it falls off.

Certainly the implications of the age of the universe should not be overstated. One can land on either side of the debate and be doctrinally sound in other, more important, areas. Nor should our theological discussions be fixated upon this topic (to the detriment of countless other topics). Yet we must not understate the importance of a solid biblical understanding of the creation of the universe. It does have ramifications upon other areas of Scripture and undermining it can lead people away from being convicted by the Gospel. It is for this reason that, on occasion, I may discuss the creation narrative in my articles.

The implication is that it shows what a crock of shit the notion of the earth being 6,000 years old is.  Basically Spinksy is saying that you have to accept that the world is only young because if you don’t then there are other parts of the bible that must also be make believe.  If you believe in evolution then you probably don’t want to buy into the young earth creationism crap.  That’s a worry for the likes of Spinksy, it means less followers because they have been led way from being ‘convicted by the gospel’.

Bring it on baby.

 

  1.  A number of people have given it a go over the years, none of them give any regard to science but base their belief only on the bible.  LINK ↩
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Nenad Nele Arcaba Hates the Gays on Facebook

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What do you say to a guy on Facebook who says this…

rainbowcrossingAustralia, Sydney City, NSW….

Should Oxfords’s St’s new rainbow corssing be permanent, read more about it or watch a faboulous timelapse video of the crossing being painted last night from the City of Sydney….. BY GAY MARRIAGE RIGHTS IN AUST.

Dear wogs, and some of Australia own people, family, friends, people who noe me, brothers and sisters, normal straight people out there – as i was reading this and what is happening in our surrounding cities i can officialy and unfortunately say : Tht i feel very sad, angry and unfortunately dissapointed in this country, its rights, the look from a normal persons point of view and sorry for this people. I bet you guys wouldnt dare to do that in Russia or bettter yet Europe – BALKANS – SERBIA.. Where even the church is against this unnormal, sick, disease spreading lunatics. I feel discusted.! Could any of the ople i have on facebook , friends or not tht r gay please delete me now… before i start going on a gay hunting spree to massacre u lunatics like the naciz did to the Jews in ww2.! Gays, Lezboz, Rapists, pedofiles, cunts tht abuse children or woman etc…. if i had a present to give you it would b by doing u a faovur and in the worst way takind ur life away. Sick ( vomits ) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

…apart from showing him how to spell check?  Best you could do is give him a bucket to vomit in.  Others thought it was a good idea to give him some education.

It’s good to see this type of homophobic rant being met head on by others.   Just look at some of the responses:

Being gay isn’t a disease lol

I dont get why it matters so much to you, they’re living their life and you’re living yours, everybody’s happy.

Nennad but were not in Europe were in a free democratic country. I pray you get some humanity soon. xxx

Just wondering, if australia was to ban gays, where does it stop? What’s to stop the govt from saying “I dont like the way that asian guy looked at me, all asians are to be deported out of the country or face death”. Hatred begets more hatred, once it starts there is no stopping it.

Making comments like that (the guy above) is just inappropriate and completely unnecessary. I don’t even know how u can call yourself a christian and make such stupid statements

You posted hate about a group of people. You said gays are pedophiles which shows you are largely uneducated, misguided and mislead in any actual truths and facts about homosexuality. Homosexuality is not a choice, not a disease, and there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. If you care so much and are disgusted (or discusted as you posted) then you are the one that has the disease, the problem, intolerance and are contributing to the hatred in the world. Gays, lesbians, bisexuals etc are normal people like straight people who happen to like the same sex and/or both sexes if bisexual. Its not hard to become educated and informed on that. Homophobia is the only disease and unfortunately refusing to see nothing is wrong with gay and lesbians makes you the ass hole. I spit on your entire existance.

It wasn’t long before he took down the post, or perhaps enough reports were made to Facebook and they took it down.  I’ve since heard reports that the Federal Police have been informed.  And rightly so.  As if it wasn’t bad enough to vilify a whole gaggle of gays, but then to threaten to go on a ‘gay hunting spree to massacre’ is really quite revolting and a serious threat from a young man who may well be capable of carrying out such threats.

For those who ask why do we need marriage equality in Australia.  Here is why.  Because some of those born in 1991 still think that there is something not normal about sections of our community.

Congratulations to all who had a chance to deliver this guy some feedback.

Here’s the page before it was removed: 20130226 Facebook hate

 

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Ding Dong off He Goes!

Evil-Pope

Every world shattering event needs a theme song:

So, Pope Benndydick has called it quits.  In the clearest sign yet that there is no god, the pope has gone and left his job without divine intervention!

For thousands of years the Pope has to wait until god ‘calls them home’, it apparently is god’s way of thanking his representative on earth for all the hard work he’s done.

I can just imagine the pope’s silent and wasted prayers to his god.  “Please god, I’m so fucking tired, this job gives me the shits, all these kiddie fuckers to protect I just don’t want to do it.  And then there’s the whole twitter thing.  I can’t trust the butler, there’s all these gays and people fucking! Can’t you kill me now?”

Instead of waiting to be smitted, Benndydick just gives up and goes off to a nice little palace where plenty of nuns will fuss about him and fluff him.  His pillows.  God must be really pissed off to have the supreme pontiff quit on him.

Now, in true style of religions around the world, the people who support the church, the people who do the work, they won’t get a say about who leads them.  Instead they’ll have to fund a bunch of guys in dresses and stupid hats fly to Rome to sit around and wait for the holy spirit to give them the name of the next pope.

And somewhere, someone will be looking through the prophecies of Nostradamus hoping to discover the end of the world is nigh!

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Wally Smiles Because he Can Sack the Poofs

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Jim ‘Wally’ Wallace over at the Australian Cunts Lobby is salivating because the Australia’s Atheist Prime Minister has given him a personal assurance that religions will be able to continue to discriminate on the basis of sexuality or other sexual activities.

Well brush my woolly nuts with steel wool.

It's consensual. Don't panic

It’s consensual. Don’t panic

So the churches can sack a woman because she’s having sex before marriage.  They gay sack a gardener because he’s gay, they can sack an admin worker because she’s transgender.  In the eyes of a church if you sin, you’re out.

What is this?  19 fucking 50?

Fuck a duck.

What a gutless, pathetic, government we have that can’t distinguish between a basic human right and the needs of old men to keep up the perception of morality.

These matters are no longer ‘sinful’ or immoral in the great scheme of our world.  It’s not like stealing or murder.  Nobody is being hurt by these actions.

The churches have their collective heads buried up the arse of their crazy god and real people suffer.

The government should have the courage to enact anti-discrimination laws that actually do what the title suggests.  Prevents discrimination.

 

 

 

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Pell Thinks French are Better

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George Hell, his grub of the most high in the catholic church has been crowing like  a chook that needs its head cut off as it’s stopped laying.  He likes that some French folk are against marriage equality.

France is different, known for its food and wines, beautiful countryside, and the French Revolution (1789) with its principles of Liberty, Equality and Fraternity, which changed the world. The French think differently. They love ideas.

Really?  That’s an opening line?  The French think differently?  To what, dolphins?  Last time I checked Australians loved ideas too.  Australia also has food, wines, beautiful country side and the Eureka Stockade.  Ok, I’ll give you the French Revolution, but only because people lost their heads.

The Minister for Justice let the cat out of the bag when she told the cardinal that “what is at stake is a reform of civilisation”. He agreed, saying the change would redefine humanity, the roles of men and women and procreation.

Cardinal Pell in a silly dress

You want us to take you seriously. Nice Frock

How will it redefine humanity?  How would the redefinition of marriage to include all couples change the role of heterosexual couples having babies?  It simply won’t.  Gay couples already live together, have families and generally get on with everyone else.  Most of them already call themselves married.  Simply changing marriage rites to include them will not bring the world to an end.  What it will do is call into question the authority of men in fancy dress living in luxurious accommodation while spouting bullshit.

He made no appeal to Bible teaching, saying the issue touched the nature of human life. Unlike us, who concentrate on the small number of couples who would enter homosexual marriages, or the short-term practical consequences, many of the French from both sides of the fence realise basic issues are at stake. They know ideas are powerful and will be taught in schools to the next generation.

Does Hell think only the French teach powerful ideas to the next generation?  I guess what he’s saying is that schools will probably include in their classes information about people being diverse.  That rather reflects reality.

 On November 17 hundreds of thousands marched through the streets of Paris and a dozen other cities supporting traditional marriage.

As is their right.  But rights are not determined by the size of crowds.  My rights, and your rights are not up for the popular vote.  Most Australians are not catholic, therefore we should legislate that catholics are not entitled to get married.

The uprising was led by a gossip columnist Frigide Barjot, the socialist Laurence Tcheng from a movement called The Left For The Republican Marriage, and an atheist homosexual Xavier Bongibault, founder of a movement called More Gay Without Marriage.

Not everybody wants to get married, and that’s ok.  But why would anyone stand in the way of others getting married?  That simply makes no sense.  Then there is the ‘uprising’ issue.  It’s a bit of an insult to the many millions of people who do rise up against their government and suffer for it.  Think of the middle east as the latest example.  In this case people marched to protest, the government was not overthrown, and the army was not dispatched to quell the masses.  It isn’t an uprising.

The feminist philosopher Sylviane Agacinski, wife of a former socialist prime minister, strongly criticised those who claim sexual differences are not founded in nature, but simply ways of thinking, cultural constructs.

There’s a call to authority.  Not happy with allowing a woman to be able to stand in her own right, Hell has to mention that she is married to a former French PM.  It’s very important to him.  She’s a philosopher and everything!  How impressive.  But she was also married to a man who was the PM.  And look, she strongly criticises sexual differences, probably doesn’t support marriage equality!

The Chief Rabbi of France, the mufti and even the foreign spokesman of the Russian Orthodox Church joined the fray to defend marriage.

There’s a line for you.  The rabbi is capitalised, the Russian is, but the mufti isn’t.  Not even a mention of his mosque. And now it’s a fray.  I love a good fraying.

All the parties know what is at stake.

When are you going to articulate exactly what is at stake?  Grand words, but nothing at all about how things will change if gay couples can get married.  In fact, apart from filling space, just what was the point of the article?

Must be a quiet news day.

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Sacerdotus Demands an Apology from Dawkins!

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My new play thing Scabbydot has had a bit to say about hell after a tweet from Richard Dawkins.

Dawkins tweeted this:

He then links to an article from his book that discusses his thinking.  It’s really very good.  Of course, he then attracts a lot of attention and the christians get all pissed off.  Queue Scabbydot…

So-called “new atheist” Richard Dawkins is at it again. Like the late Christopher Hitchens, Dawkins is using shock value tactics to draw attention to his insignificant self.

Dawkins is a well recognised personality.  Rabid Llamas and Scabbydot catholics are insignificant.

He goes on twitter posting his view that teaching kids about hell is child abuse. What a foolish guy. Is he really scientists?

That’s not foolish.  As Hitchens said – religion poisons everything.  Reading the tweet would also give you a hint about his question.  He didn’t make a statement, he asked two questions.  Is it child abuse?  Might it be worse?  No statement of fact, just a couple of curious questions that are then expanded in the linked article.

If this were true, then telling kids that if they break the law they will go to jail; then that is child abuse as well. If a teacher tells a student he/she will get detention, then that must be child abuse as well. Each of these scenarios does affect the psychological state of children. They bring about fear and anxiety. In most cases, the change behavior. I remember in elementary school thinking “the corner” was the worst thing ever and avoided getting myself put there by charming my teachers.

canComePlayDevilWinkWell, it’s true.  If you break the law, you may go to prison.  However, we don’t lock up children.  We understand that they make mistakes and need to learn.  Sure, there may be some form of punishment.  And yes, threatening a child with prison would be a form of child abuse, when it’s taken to extremes.  That is very different to the threat of eternal torture.  At least in prison you get parole.  We need rules in society to continue to work.  Hell and sin are human constructs that only serve to waste time and energy.  Getting caught for committing a crime as an adult has a real outcome.  Talking about hell and being persecuted for breaking rules you don’t fully understand or are aware of is abusive.

Psychology teaches that punishment can work depending on the situation and how it is administered. When bad behavior is associated with an aversive stimuli, then the organism learns or is conditioned to avoid the bad behavior so as to avoid the aversive stimuli. Hell, detention, jail can be processed by a child’s mind this way. Nobody wants to burn forever, no one wants to be in a boring room, no one wants to get locked up, so he/she changes his/her behavior in order to avoid that.

It’s wrong to hang a threat over the head of a child.  Either you behave or you’ll burn in hell for all eternity is.  The devil will push you into a lake of fire where there is gnashing of teeth.  You will be forever in pain, it will be unbelievably hot and you will never escape from it.  That’s what hell is, that’s a horrible, horrible thing to tell a child.  That’s child abuse. That’s an unjustifiable threat and different to saying ‘if you disobey me I will put you in your room for one hour’ . There is no hell.  At all.  Anywhere.

It is sad that Dr. Dawkins misconstrues psychology and theology in such a way. Not only is he offending Catholics and others of faith, but he is downplaying the affects of sexual abuse.

He should apologize to all those he offended and retract his uneducated statement. If not, he will continue to lose credibility as a scientist and will bring atheism down with him.

Scabbydot has not bothered to read or understand the tweet or the link that was in the tweet from Dawkins.  If he did he would find this:

Anecdotes and plausibility arguments, however, need to be backed up by systematic research, and I would be interested to hear from psychologists whether there is real evidence bearing on the question. My expectation would be that violent, painful, repeated sexual abuse, especially by a family member such as a father or grandfather, probably has a more damaging effect on a child’s mental well-being than sincerely believing in hell. But ‘sexual abuse’ covers a wide spectrum of sins, and I suspect that research would show belief in hell to be more traumatic than the sort of mild feeling-up that I suffered.

There’s a curious scientist, doing what he does.  He makes a really good point, and I too would be eager to read some reports on the relevant research.

The reaction from Scabbydot shows how little he bothers to follow the trail and comprehend before announcing how offended he is and demanding an apology.

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Billy explains why he’s poor

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In today’s lesson Uncle Billy gives us a lesson on why god encourages poor people.

Judging by some teachers, if you come to Jesus, you are entitled to prosperity, riches and the good life. But according to Jesus, if you come to him, you are entitled to a life of hardship, deprivation and suffering. So which is it? I will side with Jesus here on this one thanks.

Let me get this straight, the king of the universe that loves us so much that he gave his only begotten son wants us to have a hard life with deprivation and suffering?  What a bastard.

Now it is certainly possible that a real follower of Jesus will be, or become, wealthy. But that is not the reason anyone should come to Jesus. We should come to him because he is worthy of our all, not because of any possible goodies we might get out of him.

camelneedleSee that – a real follower.  That is anyone who Uncle Billy considers real.  It’s also means that Uncle Billy is ok for christians to accumulate huge wealth and not feel the slightest bit of guilt about it.  As long as they’re real christians.  It’s christian code for ‘fuck the poor’.  We should come to him because we are worthy, we poor (or rich) humans are so feeble and yet there is this all powerful god who insists that we play by strange rules.  There’s a power imbalance.

We are to love Jesus for who he is, not for any supposed riches, comforts and benefits we might get because of our relationship with him. If we really love him for who he is, then no price is too big, no sacrifice too great, and no obedience too difficult.

We’re not going to him because of the possible goodies?  This is just a hoot.  The only reason for jesus is because you get the ultimate reward of eternity living with him in heaven.  You just have to live by his rules, which are contradictory and impossible to follow.  But hey, do it or burn baby.  So the very idea that devotion to jesus is about anything other than self-interest would seem to indicate how deluded christians are.  This is also a way to hide your own inadequacy.  Billy is probably not rich, and rather than find a way to make a stack of money he says that’s not important.  He’s dodging the whole wealth thing because he god didn’t give it to him on a plate.  The reality is that he has no wealth because he’s not game enough to take a risk in the real world.

In a sense, the biblical teaching on wealth and poverty is pretty straight-forward. God doesn’t want us rich, or poor. He wants us holy.

He died so that we too would die to self, to sin, and to sinful desires. He did not come to give us all a Mercedes-Benz, the biggest plasma TV there is, and annual vacations on the Riviera. He came to set us free from our sin-encrusted and self-focused lifestyles.

If that’s what your religion and your god is all about Billy, then he would seem to have failed.  About 2000 years ago, some jewish bloke was nailed to a dead tree to atone for the sins of humanity that started when the people he created took a bit of a bit of fruit from a tree place before them.  They had strict instructions not to eat it, but hey, it’s a bit like putting a treat on a dog’s nose and having him wait for permission to eat it.  You know the longer you leave it the more likely the dog with do what it likes.  So, fruit consumed, the fall of man happens and some time later god needs to die to pay for that sin and all sins.  2000 years on and we still have dogs eating treats without permission.

Uncle Billy tells us how much we should worship god, but you have to ask yourself, what for?  Seriously.  It would have been much better if god had sat Adam and Eve down and explained to them why they shouldn’t have the fruit.  Explained to them what would happen if they did.  Much like sitting at the breakfast table with a bowl of cereal, a big jug of milk and a 5-year-old.  Explain that he is not to spill the milk under any circumstances and watch as he reaches for the huge jug and tries to pour it over the corn flakes.  Guess what happens?  The child is then sent to the room for his sin, gets no breakfast and sometime later dad ends up dying for the sin when the son goes psycho because nobody explained the rules properly.  It’s much better to explain to your son that if the milk is spilt it’ll make a mess, that will need to be cleaned up.  Then give a demonstration on how to pour it and then make allowances for the small boy and reduce the size of the jug or the amount of milk.  When he’s ready, upgrade to a full size jug.  But what does god do?  He allows a snake to talk Eve into eating the fruit and makes no effort to intervene or do an early intervention.

That alone should be enough for any thinking person to disregard religion as nothing but a myth, a fantasy.  Designed to allow the rich people to get richer and to keep the poor poor and the poor to be told that there is no need for them to do better because they won’t get into heaven if they accumulate wealth.

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Sacerdotus imparts his godly wisdom on the Lame

Sacerdotus has been the subject of a couple of my recent blogs.  He’s decided to answer me on his blog.  He’s done what I do, pulls apart my words sentence by sentence.  So, I’ve grabbed a couple of his sentences and done the same thing.  If you want to get the jist of his answers, you can find the full blog here.  And I haven’t answered every point that he’s made.  I’m sure if Sacerdotus thinks I’ve missed something important he’ll let me know.

We are all part of the same species and originated from the first human beings to walk the Earth.  You dismiss God without basis and you argue from assertion. We need more than that in order to take your position as valid.

I don’t need more than that.  There is no god.  If there is then show me.  You can’t, and it’s a pointless argument.  You’ve got plenty of others to argue that point with, I’m not interested in your god at all.  Whether or not you want to take my position as valid is entirely up to you.  You can, and will, believe whatever you like.

Speaking the truth does not make one a bigot.  It is not news that all civilizations, old and recent, have had some sort of a death penalty.

You don’t speak the truth.  You accept the gospel and the magisterium of the catholic church as truth.  Both are flawed human endeavours.  You hide behind your church and use that to pretend you’re a step removed from your bigotry.  You’re not.  You have a choice, use it.

The Catholic Church has earn its right to be a dominant relevant voice on Earth.  We are the largest and oldest social structure in modern times.  We have outlived every empire that are now gone.

So?  The catholic church has no right, it is governed by a bunch of old men that elect themselves.  In a modern society it is antiquated and out of touch.  It doesn’t matter how old it is.  The only reason that it is here is because it created its own power base by accumulating property and devotion from a gullible people.  We’re not in Kansas any more Dorothy.  It’s time to pack it up, sell it off.

The governments of today have modeled their laws after our beliefs, philosophies and understanding of the natural law.  We have provided modern science to the world, the school and hospital system as well.

Oh please. The laws the church pretends to have supplied were well in existence before you lot rooted your first goat.  In fact, the law has to be designed to limit the control of the church.  And while the church does a great deal of good in the world, it does so because it thinks that’s what some imaginary deity wants.  The reality is that those schools and hospitals are full of normal people who think most of the churches teachings are bollocks.

That being said:  The Catholic Church can never be silent when a minority subculture is attempting to distort reality.  You are a fool if you think the Church will let an idea that just appeared this morning to take down thousands of years of knowledge, wisdom and common sense.

The church is a minority.  Most people in the world don’t agree with you.  Most Australians are not catholics.  The only reason the church opposes things is because it’s a threat to its authority or livelihood.  You’re a fool if you think otherwise.

Sin is a real thing.  Look around you.

Sin is not real, it’s an invention created by religious nutters.  It’s a perceived wrong done against a deity.  There are no gods, therefore no sin.

Why do people do evil?

Because.  They do.  You’re god is very limited if he can’t even get that right.

Why be an addict?  Do you want to be the sum of an act?  Do you want to be defined by where you insert your penis, or do you want to define yourself by your character, knowledge and contribution to society?   The choice is yours.  I don’t think human beings exist to penetrate each other to one’s own content.  There is more to life than that.

I’m human.  I enjoy inserting my penis.  I also have a job, community involvement, deal with 100’s of people every week.  Sex is only a small part of my life, a nice part.  It’s only you religious types that think because we’re gay we only ever think about sex.

God is extremely merciful.  You’d be surprised at the many gay people who accept God at the last breath and make it.

Oh please, that’s such a silly line.  You’d be surprised at how many catholics accept there is no god at their last breath.

Well every time I see something about the LGBT community, it is always sexual.  Black and Hispanic history months demonstrate each respective ethnicity’s contribution to society.  Its famous individuals, its intellectuals and the like.

Then you should get out and look more.  Every year here in Melbourne we have a Pride March and most of the people who march are fully clothed showing their support.  Support organisations,  police, bands, schools, pubs and clubs, hair dressers are all represented.  And yes, Dikes on Bikes, the gay Football team are mostly unclad people.  But that’s not sexual, that’s just people with little on.

Gay pride month? Well…. disgusting sexual manifestations on city streets.  Sex is portrayed, even in front of children.

Sex is everywhere.  You heteros are forever putting in in TV shows, ads, billboards, magazines.  It’s not disgusting at all.  It’s part of being human.  You seem to be hung up about it.

 People are people. They have dignity.  They are not objects of gratification for others.  Why do you think so many LGBT opt out of life?  Your lifestyle is killing them!

You’ll be pleased to know that sex between a man and a woman is about gratification.  And it’s about love.  You’ll then understand that sex between two men is also about gratification and it’s about love.  Just like straight people hook up for a one night stand, so too do gay people.  It’s the way it’s always been and no amount of you crying about gratification will escape the fact that there is more bodily fluids exchanged between people that doesn’t result in birth than does.  There is more sex for gratification for both parties than for love.  There just is.  It’s what animals do.  It’s what humans do.  We just got it right, we don’t have to procreate just because we have sex.  Being gay is a bonus.

Perhaps the reason LGBT people opt out of life is because they are persecuted by catholics with a narrow view of the world.  Being gay is not a lifestyle.  Sitting on the beach in a luxury resort is a lifestyle.

Please show me an event where gay authors, poets, philosophers, scientists etc speak to the people and encourage them.  Please show me a LGBT event that is void of strippers, men dressed in silly costumes, young teens in underwear, old obese men in leather.  Please show me something other than this circus.

Seriously?  Get out more.

If that is true then why did my post get your attention?  If you are so set in your life, then you would have just turned a blind eye to my post.

It’s a hobby.

Do you approach women to flirt?  I am assuming that you don’t because they are not worth your time.

Why do you assume that?  I work with some wonderful women.  Yes, we interact, and yes we flirt.  Women are an important part of the world.  Catholics treat them like dirt.

So why pay attention to my blog and the Catholic Church’s views on homosexuality?

There was nothing good on the telly.

Obviously, my prayer to reach others did work for me. 🙂

I guess from the smiley face that you make a joke.  Prayer just keeps you busy.  You should pray more.

All human beings, Christian, non Christian, homo or hetero are called to something higher.

No they’re not.  There is nothing higher.  You get one life, that’s it.  When you die it’s all over.  Stop wasting your time on religion and do something useful with your life.

 We are not the sum of our sexuality or of what pleasures us.  When you realize this you will be free and know true joy.

I already realise that.  I am free, and I have true joy.  I’m also bound by the society in which I live, I work hard, I play hard and I love life.  That’s the way it should be.  People get on in the world because they know and understand the value of those around them.

It’s a pity that you won’t open your eyes to the true wonder of the world, leave the medieval religion behind and embrace humanity for what it is.  A moment in universal time.  A very brief moment, and one that you have been lucky enough to participate in.

Stop wasting that briefest of moments.

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Sacerdotus’s war against Humanity!

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I’ve been looking at Sacerdotus’s website.  It’s full of religious rubbish and a lovely place to visit when you need a laugh!

He thinks atheism is a crime against humanity – and includes these little bits of drivel.

stayawayAtheists like to pride themselves in being “rational” and “logical.” They measure all things against “reason” and “logic” in order for it to be truthful and valid for assimilation. In a sense, they imitate Star Trek’s Spock, or his Vulcan race which applies and lives by logical premises. In the Star Trek series, we see how Spock despite his intelligence, always struggles to understand even the simplest of things. Star Trek always presents the human being as the real smart one despite having “human qualities” that may appear inferior to other intergalactic species.

Logic and reason are fine. They serve us well. The key word is ‘serve.’ These concepts exist to benefit us, not the other way around. We do not exist to be logical or rational in a sense. To be human is to sometimes do the opposite of what logic and reason tells us. This is how we experience “thrills.” This is how we learn. In a world that is stoic in nature, we would not have amusement parks, music, dancing and other forms of entertainment. We would find those “illogical.” Any such attempt to try these activities would go against one or more logical premises.

Concepts such as emotions, affection and love would not fit in a logical world. They cannot be measured empirically and are based on introspection so they must be disposed of. It is no wonder why Spock’s race stresses the purging of all emotion. Emotion is seen as irrational and illogical. The Vulcans in the series often mock human being’s for possessing this “inferior” trait that, according to them, makes them unfit.

Atheism is on the road to this absurdity and repression of humanity. In a world where atheists would dictate rules and scripts for society, we would see the mental state of individuals plummet. People will be repressed and will go mad without the ability to use imagination and abstract thought. Ironically, the Vulcans at a certain age go mad due to repressed emotion and “Vulcan nature.”

The vision that atheism and humanism have for the human being is not a good one. It is one deprived of humanity. It is a pseudo version of human nature that is destructive.

I wonder if Sacerdotus worked that out all by himself.  It seems that he thinks that Atheists don’t have feelings or can’t be creative.  Somebody should have told Douglas Adams that.  The worlds he created in his mind and then on paper were off beat, devoid of logic and reason.

The notion that somehow Atheists are incapable of emotion or that somehow we are always rational and logic is flawed.  We are human too.  What we aren’t is delusional about our place in the universe.

This is the same old stereo type we hear from religious nutters all the time.  Because we don’t believe in a god we must be devoid of joy.  We must not have any fun, and we have no hope.  We’re not upset because somebody dies, we don’t care if someone hurts and there is no reason for us to be good as we’ll never be held accountable for our actions.

I’m a happy atheist, at times irrational and slightly unhinged, just ask the Love Llama.  I love music, 80’s stuff mostly, but thrive on Jazz and classical music.  I love to read and I love an amusement park.  Clearly I must have a touch of the gays.  Yes, that’d be it.  Gay and atheist, bound to lead to a superior feeling of happiness with the world.

 VMAT2 shows that we are hard wired to seek God and the supernatural. Our brains are wired to think beyond this universe and into the unknown. Philosophy, religion, music, art, even physics and mathematics would not exist if we suppress this part of our mind to look beyond the physical.

Atheism does not seek to suppress those things, silly.

Atheism would be a crime against humanity. It will destroy the human race completely, or leave it incapacitated biologically and psychologically speaking.

The human race will be destroyed by some deluded christian who thinks the end times are upon them.  We’ll disappear in a puff of smoke because nobody was game enough to say “enough!”.

There is no god, there is no supernatural.  There is plenty of art, music and philosophy.  Atheists can and do take part in all those things, because they want to.  Not because some god told them to.

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